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Hogg/Hogue/Haig/Hoge—what’s in a name? Robert Fulton Hogue, 1743-1824, 52 Weeks 52 Ancestors Challenge, #2

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Hogg Crest

Robert Fulton Hogue was my fourth great-grandfather. He was the first Hogg/Hogue in our family line to come to America and grow up here. His story intrigues me, because he had a very rough beginning in life, yet grew up to establish an incredibly intelligent and hard working  line of descendants who cover the USA from shore to shore! Thanks to DNA testing through ancestry.com, I have now met some of those Hogue cousins, and we are working together to try to identify Robert’s correct ancestral line in Scotland! It is fun and has added a layer of joy and family to my life that I never expected! Flag of Scotland

According to the “Genealogy of the Jackson Family “ by the Rev. Hugh Parks Jackson, assisted by Rev. Hugh Hogue Thompson and James R. Jackson, (available in total through the card catalog at ancestry.com) Robert came to America as a three-year old, only child of Robert Hogg and his wife. We have yet to solve the puzzle of whether his mother was Mary McNair as named in some family records or Margaret Wilson according to others—we are working on that! Immigrant ship picture for ancestry

 

We are told in our family history, that  Robert Hogg the father, born about 1725 in Scotland, was a Covenanter. A Covenanter was basically a Protestant—generally a Presbyterian, who was willing to fight the Catholic rulers for their right to worship according to their own “covenant” with God. Most of the fighting took place in the 1600’s, but we are told Robert last saw his eight brothers while hiding out in the highlands of Scotland where they were  worshiping one Sunday morning when the soldiers attacked! After hiding for days or weeks, Robert made his way back to his wife and son, and they boarded a ship and sailed to America! Sadly, Robert Sr. was in a weakened state already and we are told he died two weeks after landing in Philadelphia, Pa. His young wife took the money they had brought with them, and made her way to Chester, Pennsylvania where she bought some property, remarried, and established a home for her son. It was about this time when the name was changed from Hogg to Hogue, reportedly thinking that would facilitate the more correct pronunciation of the name.  What a remarkably strong, courageous woman she must have been! All we know is that she remarried a “Mr. Patterson” , and that they raised a large family before his untimely young death, leaving our Robert Fulton to help raise his younger half brothers and sisters! We do have this wonderful picture of Robert Fulton’s and Mary Jackson’s son Hugh’s family farm in Pennsylvania–

Hogue home in Pennsylvania belonging to Hugh Hogue and Mary Patterson

Robert Fulton married Mary Jackson, first cousin to President Andrew Jackson, in 1780 (when he was 37 years old, she was 26). They had ten children together, and forty-eight grandchildren! Mary died in childbirth in 1800. In 1814, Robert Fulton moved to Belmont, Ohio with his children and some of his half siblings. He died there in 1824, where we just recently discovered his gravestone giving us his correct birth date! He is buried in the cemetery at Taggart”s Presbyterian Church along with many others in his family.

There is so much more to this family story, and I will try to add more as time goes on and as we uncover more facts. We are told in several sources that Robert was highly respected and liked. One thing I have learned in our groups’ multitudinous research… is that those Hoggs/Hogues/Hoges were smart individuals! Some of them came from wealth, but they worked hard and became ministers, professors, great planters and merchants! It has been amazing to discover the varied life pursuits. Through DNA testing also, we have learned that we are kin to other lines of Hoges/Hoggs/Hogues in our country to whom  we previously did not know whether or not we were related.  We have to find our connection to our Scottish line to understand our kinship. We have a very talented Scottish genealogist working with us now, Laird Douglas Moncrieff, and together I am sure we will find our elusive line!

If you’d like to join our research group, just let me know. If you want to know more, let me know that also. In our group we have people from California, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Colorado, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida…and I am sure I am missing some places! When you look at Robert Fulton and Mary Jackson’s  ten children, in our group are descendants from four of them! Five months ago, I knew about 10 of my Hogue relatives, now I know of hundreds! What a joy!

Here’s wishing you well in your own family searches, its worth it! Helen

 

 

 Robert Fulton Hogue, b. 1743 ,Kilmaurs, Ayrshire, Scotland, d. 1824, Belmont, Ohio, USA·

Spouse:

Mary Jackson 1754 – 1800

Children:

Robert Hogue 1782 – 1844

David Hogue1784 – 1872

James Hogue 1785 – 1865

Elizabeth Hogue 1787 – 1864

Hugh Hogue 1787 – 1880

John Hogue 1790 –

Margaret Hogue 1792 – 1884

William Hogue, 1795-1840

Mary Ann Hogue 1798 – 1838

Baby who died at b Hogue 1800 –

 

 

Decendency:

Robert Fulton Hogue (1743 – 1824)

is your 4th great grandfather
son of Robert Fulton Hogue
son of Hugh Hogue
son of Hugh Jackson Hogue
daughter of Robert Fulton Hogue Sr.
son of Helen Blanche Hogue
You are the daughter of Cecil Hogue Youngblood Sr.

Author: Helen Holshouser

Old enough to enjoy life, I am a Red Hatter, grandmother, gardener, and amateur genealogist. I am a retired clinical psychologist, master's level, who is disabled with heart disease, but having fun with family and friends. Married over 40 years, I have two grown daughters and three grandchildren. I have learned that grandchildren provide a joy one never knew existed---writing feeds my soul, gardening is therapy, and genealogy research makes me feel like a detective!

19 thoughts on “Hogg/Hogue/Haig/Hoge—what’s in a name? Robert Fulton Hogue, 1743-1824, 52 Weeks 52 Ancestors Challenge, #2

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  2. This is fascinating, Helen! I look forward to reading more!

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  3. Thank you so much Lois! I really appreciate your coming by and taking the time to comment! We do have a woman in our Hogue research group from England, a descendant of Sir Roger Hogg, and a Scottish genealogist is also helping us! I am looking forward to reading your work asap! Hope to talk again soon! Helen

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  4. my jeffrey hogue Ilike to known about the hogues

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  5. So glad to see you Jeffrey Hogue, I sent you an email!
    Helen

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  6. Please contact me about the Hogue family history. I am the daughter of Marvin Fulton Hogue, son of Henry Clay Hogue and Viola Myers Hogue. We are descendants of Robert FultonHogue, son of Hugh Jackson Hogue and Mary Patterson Hogue. We are most interested in any and all genealogy you have on the Hogues. I have plenty of current info about the family here.

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  7. Hi Marcia Hogue Peters, so happy to “meet ” you cousin! Looking forward to being in touch!

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  8. hi helen I like to know if now the birthday maude hooten and anything about her

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  9. Hi Jeff Hogue, Maude Hooten was born 1892 in North Carolina. I’m not sure if she was born there, but on the 1900 census, she is 8 years old and living with her 38 year old widowed mother, Dora Hooten, and her brothers Dennis, age 11, Ferris age 4, and sister Ruth age 6. I have her father as Gustavus Beauregard Hooten and her mother as Dora Penelope Sadler.I have her death date as 6 January, 1984. It looks like she remarried after Robert Fulton Hogue died to one A. Murphy Moore, that can be seen on the 1930 census, and she may have died in Los Angeles, Calif.

    Jeff, we’d love to have you join our Hogue family group on facebook if you’d like. Good to see you nevertheless, cousin! I guess you are Jeffrey Bruce Hogue, her grandson. I would love to communicate with you more. You can email me at helenholshouser@gmail.com Helen

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  10. My name is mary elizabeth brayson. I was born mary elizabeth hogg in edinburgh scotland in 1939. I emmigrated to australia with my late husband and two young daughters in 1965. My family bought me for my birthday in june a years subscription to ancestry. Com. Ive managed to get back to the 13 hundreds. Ive gone back from my grandfather william hogg born in 1880 to every generation of Williams to early 1669. The name then gets confusing with changes to hoge,hoag hog,hogg and finally haig. Haig is of coarse a family of landed gentry and nobility. I’ve found lords and ladies earls and baronesses. One lord of annandale which has a connection to robert the bruce. The connection to perta de haga is amazing. All facinating stuff. I would like more proof of my connection to all this nobility.

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  11. Hi Elizabeth, how great to “meet” you! I am also working on ancestry, and have a lot of Hogg information in my tree, “Old Virginia Families”. My user name is hyholshouser if you want to look it up. I would love to find your tree there as well and look at it. Are you aware of the International Hogg dna project. We might be able to tell what dna group your ancestors are in,and whether or not we match. Please email me at helenholshouser@gmail.com. Thanks for reading and leaving the comment, hope to hear from you. Helen

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  12. I read an article in the Haynes News Letter that when the Hogg family left England for America that they changed the last name of all of the sons to Alvis. They were teased about the Hogg name and so it was changed to the name of the mother.
    My former husband was an Alvis. So did a lot of research on the Alvis family of Tenn.
    Marian

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  13. Hi Marian Alvis Kingsbury, so good to hear from you! The international Hogg DNA project has proven unfortunately that your Hogg/Alvies family and mine are not really related1 So sad. But there are several different independent Hogg families in the USA now. You can google Hogg DNA Project, or List of Hogg Surnames from the DNA project and see your own group–or try the link I included below, and your line is labeled lin SL 1672: descendants of James Hogg of Innerwick, East Lothian Scotland:

    http://hdhdata.org/hoggdna/families.html

    However, being located in Raleigh, NC, I am very well aware of the A;vies/James Hogg history, becuase he was one of the founders of our starship university, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. There is a wonderful article about him that I think you would enjoy in the Dictionary of North Carolina Biography. YOu can find it at this link: Best always1 Helen

    http://www.ncpedia.org/biography/hogg-james

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  14. Hello my name is Ted Hogue and my family came to America from Ireland but that is all I know. I would love to know more but I have no idea what to do next.

    I would love some help.
    Thank You.

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  15. Hi Ted Hogue, how wonderful to meet you! I’d love to help if I can! I just emailed you, hope to hear back from you, Helen

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  16. Hi, Helen! I stumbled upon this blog when looking for our family crest, I am a Hogg. I would love to know more about all of this. I am very intrigued and find it so interesting learning about my (potential) family history!

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  17. Hi Courtney, how wonderful to hear from you! I’d be happy to help you figure out which of the Hogg lines you belong to so you can learn more about your personal family history! Even if we are in different groups, we are connected by our overall family background! You can email me if you’d like at helenholshouser@gmail.com –if yu can give me your parents names and approx. DOB, and y our grandparents, I might be able to figure out more! I guess it sounds like you don’t have a family tre already, I might be able to help with that! Looking forward to hearing from you, Helen

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  18. Hello my mother is ima Louise Hoffman I’ve found this website while looking for my mom birth parents I know I have Huddleston as cuz my DNA ged match M960483 if there antwat to find my line

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  19. Hi Johnlene Morris, I just sent you an email, I think we match distantly on gedmatch. Please email ;me and let’s compare notes! helenholhouser@gmai.com

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