Please share this with your neighbor John Pryor. If he has tested his Y-DNA with FTDNA can he share his kit number? His haplotype? His WV Pryor line has probably been tested by others. Nearly all 13 Colonial lines have been tested. Does he have any matches? Please give him my email address. Thanks.
Sorry to have to say, john Pryor passed away a couple years ago now. He was 96. I didn’t know about dna projects then. If i had, or he had, we might have enjoyed exploring it together. Thanks for writing though, i wish you well. Helen
Please add the last name Rolle to your research. Denys Rolle started a failed utopia in Palatka Florida. It failed and he imported Africans as slaves to work his plantation called Rollestown or Charlotte. He moved his slaves to Exuma Florida and started another plantation called Rollestown. His son zjohn Rolle inherited the land and slaves. We are descendants trying to obtain a list of the slaves. This would help identify our great grandparents.
I am a Houchins in my father’s side and doing my family history, too. I was thrilled to come across your blog not the least because you have related some very interesting back histories of the family! Some of the people you mention are second cousins 3x removed from me but I am always interested in the links and the stories, nonetheless.
Anneke Dubash (Houchins)
Oh! I was interested to see that you have some Chews in your background. In doing my ex-husband’s tree I found Chews but then discovered them in my family tree, as well. I am sure there is a link, although I haven’t made the connection, yet.
Hi Helen, thanks for your notes about people enslaved by the Langhorne families. This is terribly important information for those of us working hard to break through the “1870 wall” when searching for forebears. I’m interested in the Langhornes because of an oral history in my husband’s family. His great-grandmother Mary Dade Lane was born into slavery c1857, a daughter of Emilia Lane. Her father’s name does not show up on any documents, which often means a person was fathered by an owner or another white male associated with the owner.
Mary taught school in Alexandria after emancipation, and married Dr. Richard F Tancil, later moving with him to Richmond where he had a successful medical practice and business career. My reason for interest in the Langhornes is that the family’s oral tradition is that Mary was somehow related to Nancy Langhorne Astor, Vicountess Astor, daughter of Chiswell Dabney Astor of Danville. Those in the family who knew this history have passed on but during their lifetime, at least in their older years when I knew them, were unable to supply any more information about this relationship. The assumption was that, since Mary was born enslaved, someone related to Nancy Astor was Mary’s father.
I wish we had more definitive information. But as Mary’s granddaughter, my husband’s Aunt Mary once told me – her elders didn’t want to talk about “slavery times” since their lives then were so degraded. They preferred to forget the past and make the most of freedom and the future for their families.
I didn’t see a Mary or Emilia in your lists, but I hope if you are able to uncover any more lists of people who were enslaved by a Langhorne, you’ll remember these names and let me know if you come across any possibilities. Thanks again for posting names. Many descendants of slaveholders are very uncomfortable with the fact of slavery and avoid the topic. We can’t change the past, but we can all help to give a past to those descendants who long for one.
Hi Susan, Thank you for writing such a sensitive and informative note. I’d like to help if I can so I sent an email that I hope you get. If you don’t by any chance, please post again. Take care, Helen
Thank you soooo much my dear! I am related to William Hatcher, and Capt. Christopher Newport is my 9th great grandfather from my father’s mother’s side of the family. She was a Burton, family from Georgia. I just started this genealogy thing, but I did do the DNA. My name is Glenn Kenneth Allen, Jr.
Hi Glenn, so are you on ancestry? or where? Where did you do your DNA? I did mine on ancestry and have a tree there called “Old Virginia Families”. My username is HelenLKE –if you are on ancestry, write to me there so I can find you. Thanks for writing and it’s great to “meet” you cousin, Helen
I’m curious if you’ve ever come across any connections to the Pearces from Tallahassee, FL. My great grandmother was Mary Eliza Pearce Thieler. Her mother was Teresa Hopkins Pearce, wife of John Antony Pearce who was a sheriff of Leon County. (St. Teresa Beach in FL was named for her.) John’s father Philip Pearce was Mayor of Tallahassee from 1861-65. Interestingly, I was able to establish a link from Capt. William Pierce of Jamestowne to the Bradford/Pace line in our family so we seem to have a Pierce/Pearce connection. Thanks in advance for any Pearce line info you can offer.
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April 1, 2015 at 4:20 am
Please share this with your neighbor John Pryor. If he has tested his Y-DNA with FTDNA can he share his kit number? His haplotype? His WV Pryor line has probably been tested by others. Nearly all 13 Colonial lines have been tested. Does he have any matches? Please give him my email address. Thanks.
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April 1, 2015 at 7:26 am
Sorry to have to say, john Pryor passed away a couple years ago now. He was 96. I didn’t know about dna projects then. If i had, or he had, we might have enjoyed exploring it together. Thanks for writing though, i wish you well. Helen
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May 22, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Please add the last name Rolle to your research. Denys Rolle started a failed utopia in Palatka Florida. It failed and he imported Africans as slaves to work his plantation called Rollestown or Charlotte. He moved his slaves to Exuma Florida and started another plantation called Rollestown. His son zjohn Rolle inherited the land and slaves. We are descendants trying to obtain a list of the slaves. This would help identify our great grandparents.
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January 22, 2016 at 4:08 am
Helen, If John has a living sin or nephew that would work too. – Laurie
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January 22, 2016 at 4:08 am
I meant son. Sorry.
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February 14, 2016 at 12:19 am
I am a Houchins in my father’s side and doing my family history, too. I was thrilled to come across your blog not the least because you have related some very interesting back histories of the family! Some of the people you mention are second cousins 3x removed from me but I am always interested in the links and the stories, nonetheless.
Anneke Dubash (Houchins)
Oh! I was interested to see that you have some Chews in your background. In doing my ex-husband’s tree I found Chews but then discovered them in my family tree, as well. I am sure there is a link, although I haven’t made the connection, yet.
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November 21, 2016 at 5:41 am
Sorry to have missed this previously, done and done. If I learn anything about your families, I will let you know. Thanks, Helen
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November 21, 2016 at 5:45 am
Hi Anneke, I will always be thankful you wrote as we have become friends as well as cousins! Helen
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August 14, 2018 at 2:26 am
Hi Helen, thanks for your notes about people enslaved by the Langhorne families. This is terribly important information for those of us working hard to break through the “1870 wall” when searching for forebears. I’m interested in the Langhornes because of an oral history in my husband’s family. His great-grandmother Mary Dade Lane was born into slavery c1857, a daughter of Emilia Lane. Her father’s name does not show up on any documents, which often means a person was fathered by an owner or another white male associated with the owner.
Mary taught school in Alexandria after emancipation, and married Dr. Richard F Tancil, later moving with him to Richmond where he had a successful medical practice and business career. My reason for interest in the Langhornes is that the family’s oral tradition is that Mary was somehow related to Nancy Langhorne Astor, Vicountess Astor, daughter of Chiswell Dabney Astor of Danville. Those in the family who knew this history have passed on but during their lifetime, at least in their older years when I knew them, were unable to supply any more information about this relationship. The assumption was that, since Mary was born enslaved, someone related to Nancy Astor was Mary’s father.
I wish we had more definitive information. But as Mary’s granddaughter, my husband’s Aunt Mary once told me – her elders didn’t want to talk about “slavery times” since their lives then were so degraded. They preferred to forget the past and make the most of freedom and the future for their families.
I didn’t see a Mary or Emilia in your lists, but I hope if you are able to uncover any more lists of people who were enslaved by a Langhorne, you’ll remember these names and let me know if you come across any possibilities. Thanks again for posting names. Many descendants of slaveholders are very uncomfortable with the fact of slavery and avoid the topic. We can’t change the past, but we can all help to give a past to those descendants who long for one.
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August 14, 2018 at 11:07 am
Hi Susan, Thank you for writing such a sensitive and informative note. I’d like to help if I can so I sent an email that I hope you get. If you don’t by any chance, please post again. Take care, Helen
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December 22, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Thank you soooo much my dear! I am related to William Hatcher, and Capt. Christopher Newport is my 9th great grandfather from my father’s mother’s side of the family. She was a Burton, family from Georgia. I just started this genealogy thing, but I did do the DNA. My name is Glenn Kenneth Allen, Jr.
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December 23, 2018 at 12:13 am
Hi Glenn, so are you on ancestry? or where? Where did you do your DNA? I did mine on ancestry and have a tree there called “Old Virginia Families”. My username is HelenLKE –if you are on ancestry, write to me there so I can find you. Thanks for writing and it’s great to “meet” you cousin, Helen
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August 25, 2019 at 12:19 am
I’m curious if you’ve ever come across any connections to the Pearces from Tallahassee, FL. My great grandmother was Mary Eliza Pearce Thieler. Her mother was Teresa Hopkins Pearce, wife of John Antony Pearce who was a sheriff of Leon County. (St. Teresa Beach in FL was named for her.) John’s father Philip Pearce was Mayor of Tallahassee from 1861-65. Interestingly, I was able to establish a link from Capt. William Pierce of Jamestowne to the Bradford/Pace line in our family so we seem to have a Pierce/Pearce connection. Thanks in advance for any Pearce line info you can offer.
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